When journalist Alfred Sinnett asked to Master Kuthumi about
Atlantis, that is what the Master answered him:
« In the early part of the Eocene Age! Forsooth, your
scientific writers bestride their hypothesis most fearlessly, I see. It will
really be pity to find their fiery steed kicking and breaking their heads some
day; something that is unavoidably in store for them. In the Eocene Age — even
in its "very first part," the great cycle of the fourth Race men, the
Atlanteans — had already reached its highest point, and the great continent,
the father of nearly all the present continents — showed the first symptoms of
sinking — a process that occupied it down to 11,446 years ago, when its last
island, that, translating its vernacular name, we may call with propriety Poseidonis
— went down with a crash.
By the bye, whoever wrote the Review of Donnelly's Atlantis* is right:
Lemuria can no more be confounded with the Atlantic Continent than Europe with
America. Both sunk and were drowned with their high civilizations and
"gods," yet between the two catastrophes, a short period of about
700,000 years elapsed.
Lemuria flourishing and ending her career just at about that trifling
lapse of time before the early part of the Eocene Age, since its race was the third.
Behold, the relics of that once great nation in some of the flat-headed
aborigines of your Australia!
No less right is the review in rejecting the kind attempt of the author
to people India and Egypt with the refuse of Atlantis.
[ * Original
title: “Atlantis: The Antediluvian World”
(1882) and the review is in the Theosophist
magazine, Vol. III, N°9, june 1882, p.237]
_ _ _
No doubt your geologists are very learned; but why not bear in mind
that, under the continents explored and fathomed by them, in the bowels of
which they have found the "Eocene Age" and forced it to deliver them
its secrets, there may be, hidden deep in the fathomless, or rather unfathomed
ocean beds, other, and far older continents whose stratums have never been
geologically explored; and that they may some day upset entirely their present
theories, thus illustrating the simplicity and sublimity of truth as connected
with inductive "generalization" in opposition to their visionary
conjectures.
Why not admit — true no one of them has ever thought of it — that our present
continents, have — like "Lemuria" and "Atlantis" — been several
times already, submerged and had the time to reappear again, and bear their new
groups of mankind and civilization; and that, at the first great geological
upheaval, at the next cataclysm — in the series of periodical cataclysms that
occur from the beginning to the end of every Round, — our already autopsized
continents will go down, and the Lemurias and Atlantises — come up again.
Think of the future geologists of the sixth and seventh races. Imagine
them digging deep in the bowels of what was Ceylon and Simla, and finding
implements of the Veddahs, or of the
remote ancestor of the civilized Pahari — every object of the civilized
portions of humanity that inhabited those regions having been pulverized to
dust by the great masses of travelling glaciers, — during the next glacial
period — imagine him finding only such rude implements as now found among those
savage tribes; and forthwith declaring that during that period primitive man
climbed and slept on the trees, and sucked the marrow out of animal bones after
breaking them — as civilized Europeans no less than the Veddahs will often do — hence jumping to the conclusion that in the
year 1882 a.d. mankind was composed of "man-like animals,"
black-faced, and whiskered, "with prominent prognathous and large pointed
canine teeth."
True, a Grant Allen of the sixth race, may be not so far from fact and
truth in his conjecture that during the "Simla period" — these teeth were
used in the combats of the males for "grass widows" — but then
metaphors has very little to do with anthropology and geology. Such is your
Science.
_ _ _
To return to your questions. Of course the 4th race had its periods of
the highest civilization. Greek and Roman and even Egyptian civilization are
nothing compared to the civilizations that began with the 3rd Race. Those of
the second were not savages but they could not be called civilized.
We affirm that a series of civilizations existed before, as well as
after the Glacial Period, that they existed upon various points of the Globe,
reached the apex of glory and — died. Every trace and memory had been lost of
the Assyrian and Phoenician civilizations until discoveries began to be made a
few years ago. And now they open a new, though not by far one of the earliest
pages in the history of mankind. And yet how far back do those civilizations go
in comparison with the oldest? — and even them, history is shy to accept.
Archeo-geology has sufficiently demonstrated that the memory of man runs
back vastly further than history has been willing to accept, and the sacred
records of once mighty nations preserved by their heirs are still more worthy
of trust. We speak of civilizations of the ante-glacial period; and (not only
in the minds of the vulgar and the profane but even in the opinion of the
highly learned geologist) the claim sounds preposterous. But future discoveries that will be doing will
give us the reason.
_ _ _
The sinking of Atlantis (the group of continents and isles) begun during
the Miocene period — as certain of your continents are now observed to be
gradually sinking — and it culminated — first, in the final disappearance of
the largest continent an event coincident with the elevation of the Alps; and second
with that of the last of the fair islands mentioned by Plato.
The Egyptian priests of Sais told his ancestor Solon, that Atlantis (i.e.
the only remaining large island) had perished 9,000 years before their time.
This was not a fancy date, since they had for millenniums preserved most
carefully their records. But then, as I say, they spoke but of the
"Poseidonis" and would not reveal even to the great Greek legislator
their secret chronology.
As there are no geological reasons for doubting, but on the contrary, a
mass of evidence for accepting the tradition, Science has finally accepted the
existence of the great continent and Archipelago and thus vindicated the truth
of one more "fable." It now teaches, as you know that Atlantis, or
the remnants of it lingered down to post-tertiary times, its final submergence
occurring within the Paleozoic ages of American history! Well, truth and fact
ought to feel thankful even for such small favors in the previous absence of
any, for so many centuries. The deep sea explorations — especially those of the
Challenger have fully confirmed the reports of geology and paleontology.
The great event — the triumph of our "Sons of the Fire Mist" the inhabitants of Shamballa (when yet
an island in the Central Asian Sea) over the selfish if not entirely wicked magicians
of Poseidonis occurred just 11,446 ago. Read in this connection the incomplete
and partially veiled tradition, in “Isis Unveiled,”
Vol. I, p. 588-94, and some things may become still plainer to you. The
corroboration of tradition and history, brought forward by Donnelly I find in
the main correct; but you will find all this and much more in Isis.
_ _ _
Morya thinks that for your purposes I better give you a few more details
upon Atlantis since it is greatly connected with evil if not with its origin.
In the forthcoming Theosophist you will find a note or two appended to Hume's
translation of Eliphas Levi's Preface in connection with the lost continent.
And now, since I am determined to make of the present answers a volume —
bear your cross with Christian fortitude and then, perhaps, after reading the
whole you will ask for no more for some time to come. But what can I add to
that already told?
I am unable to give you purely scientific information since we can never
agree entirely with Western conclusions; and that ours will be rejected as
"unscientific."
Yet both geology and paleontology bear witness to much we have to say.
Of course your Science is right in many of her generalities, but her premises
are wrong, or at any rate — very faulty. For instance she is right in saying
that while the new America was forming the ancient Atlantis was sinking and
gradually washing away; but she is neither right in her given epochs nor in the
calculations of the duration of that sinking.
The latter —
is the future fate of your British Islands the first on the list of victims
that have to be destroyed by fire (submarine volcanos) and water, France and
other lands will follow suit. When they reappear again, the last seventh
Sub-race of the sixth Root race of present mankind will be flourishing on
"Lemuria" and "Atlantis" both of which will have reappeared
also (their reappearance following immediately the disappearance of the present
isles and continents), and very few seas and great waters will be found then on
our globe, waters as well as land appearing and disappearing and shifting
periodically and each in turn. »
(Mahatma
Letter 23B, p.151-156, extracts)
OBSERVATIONS
Master
Kuthumi explained that the continents submerge and emerge cyclically. And this
was previously accepted by science and that is why some scientists considered possible
the existence of the continent of Atlantis as Master Kuthumi indicated in his
response, but later the theory of continental drift and the theory of tectonic
plates caused geologists change their opinion.
However,
there are several aspects that do not fit all in these theories and you can
read the discussion about that theme in this other article:
- Geology versus Theosophy (after I will put it)
And
Master Kuthumi points out that the sinking of the continents is a normal and
gradual process. However, in the Secret Doctrine it is declared that there was
a cataclysm that caused large portions of the Atlantic continent to flood
abruptly and that is where the legends of the universal Deluge come from, which
is narrated in almost all the traditions of ancient peoples.
And
later when practically the entire continent of Atlantis had submerged and only
a small archipelago remained, there was a second catastrophe that caused the
sudden collapse of Poseidonis Island, which was the largest island of that
small remnant archipelago.
And
that island became famous for the story that made the Greek philosopher Plato about
it, and very probably that story was originally related by the Greek wise Solon,
who received this information from the Egyptian priests of Sais.
And
Kuthumi points out that the destruction of Poseidonis Island happened in the
year 9564 B.C., and also in that year there was a battle between Adepts of
Shamballa’s adepts and Poseidonis’ magicians.
And
finally, you should know that the Theosophists put different dates for the
geological ages (see link). (after I will put
it)
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